Public confidence in the Environmental Protection Authority and scepticism about science were among the issues examined during Question Time in Parliament on Thursday.
The work of the EPA’s chief scientist (who was not named) came into considerations, too.
National MP Scott Simpson seized on two statements in the EPA’s annual report –
* “We have our share of science deniers, who oppose fluoride, 1080, vaccinations, glyphosate, genetic modification, and much more”; and
* “Our Chief Scientist is prominent in emphasising the evidence, data, and science that underpins EPA decision making”.
Mr Simpson asked Associate Environment Minister Eugenie Sage if she agreed with those statements and – if so – why?
Ms Sage said yes, she did agree with the first statement by the chair of the Environmental Protection Authority board, Kerry Prendergast, when she indicated that New Zealand was not immune to scepticism about science.
She said she also agreed that the chief scientist for the EPA has a role in highlighting the science which informs the EPA’s decisions.
Mr Simpson then asked if the Minister had had discussions with the EPA chief executive specifically about the EPA chief scientist?
Ms Sage said she had advised the EPA chief executive that her office had received correspondence
“… expressing some concerns about media comments by the chief scientist. I was told that the matter was in hand. There was no substantive discussion.”
Mr Simpson also asked if the Minister had had discussions with the chief executive in terms of the scientific independence of the organisation and its role in how it expresses its view.
Ms Sage replied:
“It is important that the public has confidence in the EPA as an organisation which uses robust science in its decisions. It would not be appropriate for me, as Minister, to have any discussions with the chief executive about an employee of the authority. I did not do that.”
Mr Simpson then asked if Ms Sage agreed with the statement made last August by her former Green Party colleague, Steffan Browning, that the EPA are “incompetent chemical cowboys”.
Ms Sage didn’t directly answer. Rather, she said:
“The problem has been that the EPA was not resourced by the last Government to do all of the investigations that it needs to do.”
Mr Scott raised a point of order to say he was not sure the Minister had even attempted to address the question.
The Speaker, Trevor Mallard, disagreed.